Episode #151: Pathways to Intentional Communities

Frank concludes his interview with permaculture co-originator David Holmgren. David begins by sharing some strategies people can employ to develop permaculture in their own lives without having to purchase land or go deeply into debt. He then discusses his realization in the very early days of permaculture that freehold land tenure would not be an effective way to implement broad-acre permacultural polycultures. He suggests some why this fact has been so often overlooked, and offers some strategies for the development of intentional communities. David also shares his ideas on the prospects for seasteading and the possibilities for permaculture in the suburbs.

Useful links below:

Holmgren Design
Joe Rogan Experience Podcast with Joe Quirk of the Seasteading Institute



Episode #151: Pathways to Intentional Communities — 2 Comments

  1. I find myself often disagreeing with David Holmgren’s perspective, especially his outlook on the future. But this second half of your interview is very topical for me, dealing with how to approach land tenure across generations and along the spectrum from collective to individual action. In my life there has been no lack of access to land, but the many details and intangibles that come with devoting yourself to specific bits of land and to specific people — they have always proven too much of an obstacle, lacking technological workarounds.

    Unfortunately we still need specific names, case studies, and numerical quantification of, say, collective land tenure in Denmark, or shared agricultural rights to land in a common law system, and the productive outputs of those ventures that would support incomes for individuals with complimentary skillsets (beekeeper, grazier, forester, hunter, etc). The shepherd who mows power line rights of way, the orchardist who picks all the fruit and nut trees distributed across a leafy suburb — we know these things exist, but they have not scaled, and my suspicion is that transparently quantifying these cottage-scale enterprises based on biological capital would help many millions more people comfortably leave the consumer economy and take up new work closer to home.

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